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Rat vs mouse droppings: how to tell and clean up safely

You've found small dark droppings in the pantry, the garage or above a cupboard, and you want to know what left them. The size and shape tell you a lot. So does how you clean them up, because the wrong method can put more into the air than it removes.

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  1. How can you tell rat droppings from mouse droppings?
  2. How old are the droppings?
  3. How to clean up droppings safely
  4. Are rat droppings dangerous?
  5. Found droppings. What now?

The short answer

Mouse droppings are 3 to 6 mm long with pointed ends, and turn up scattered by the dozen. Rat droppings are bigger, about 10 to 20 mm, and sit in smaller clusters. Don't sweep or vacuum either. Wear gloves, wet the droppings with disinfectant, wipe them up with paper towel and bin them.

How can you tell rat droppings from mouse droppings?

Size is the main clue. Mouse droppings are small, thin and pointed at both ends, a bit like a grain of rice or smaller. A mouse leaves lots of them, scattered along the paths it travels. Rat droppings are chunkier, and a rat leaves fewer of them, often in a small pile or along a run.

In Brisbane the rat you're most likely to have in the ceiling is the black rat, also called the roof rat (Rattus rattus). Its droppings are spindle-shaped with pointed ends. Norway rats, more likely near drains and bins at ground level, leave larger, blunter capsules.

Rat droppings compared with mouse droppings
ClueMouseRoof ratNorway rat
LengthAbout 3 to 6 mmAbout 10 to 15 mmAbout 15 to 20 mm
ShapeThin, pointed endsSpindle or banana shape, pointed endsThick capsule, blunt ends
How manyMany, scatteredFewer, along runs and beamsSmall piles near burrows and bins
Where in BrisbanePantries, drawers, wall cavitiesRoof voids, tops of walls, palm trees and fruit treesUnder decks, sheds, near drains and bins

Droppings can also come from other animals. Possum droppings in a roof are larger and more pellet-like, and possums are protected in Queensland. If you're not sure what's up there, get it identified before anything is baited.

How old are the droppings?

Fresh droppings are dark, moist and soft-looking, sometimes a little shiny. Old ones turn grey, dry and crumbly. If you clear a spot and fresh droppings show up again in a day or two, the animal is still active.

That's a handy trick before you call anyone. Clean one small area and check it the next night. Fresh droppings, gnaw marks on packaging, greasy smears along walls and scratching at night all point to an active problem.

How to clean up droppings safely

Rodent droppings and urine can carry bacteria, so the aim is to avoid stirring up dust and to avoid touching them with bare hands. This is in line with general public health advice, and Queensland Health has information on rodent-borne illness if you want to read more.

  1. Open doors and windows and let the area air out for a while before you start.
  2. Put on disposable gloves. Keep pets and children out of the area.
  3. Don't sweep them and don't vacuum them. Both can throw fine particles into the air.
  4. Spray the droppings and the surface around them with a household disinfectant until they're wet through, and leave it for the time on the label.
  5. Wipe up with paper towel, put it in a plastic bag, seal it and place it in the outside bin.
  6. Wash the surface again with hot water and detergent, then disinfect food surfaces.
  7. Take off the gloves, bag them, and wash your hands with soap and water.

For a lot of droppings, or anything in a roof void, don't go in yourself. Bruin's technicians don't enter roof voids, so ask a professional cleaner or an appropriate tradesperson to handle heavy contamination, and treat the rodent problem separately.

Are rat droppings dangerous?

They can be. Rodents can carry germs that make people sick, and they can contaminate food, benchtops and utensils with droppings, urine and saliva. One disease linked to rat urine is leptospirosis. It's spread when urine from an infected animal gets into cuts or into the eyes, nose or mouth.

We're pest controllers, not doctors, so keep it general. Handle droppings as you'd handle any contamination, wash your hands, and see your GP if you become unwell after clearing them out. Queensland Health has a leptospirosis fact sheet with the symptoms and who's most at risk.

Found droppings. What now?

Cleaning up is only half the job. Droppings mean rodents are getting in, and they'll be back unless the entry points are found and the animals are dealt with. Rats fit through a gap about the width of your thumb, and mice through something much smaller.

Look for gaps around pipes, under doors, at the edge of the roof and eaves, and around cabling. Store food in sealed containers and keep bins closed. If the signs persist, call. Our rodent control is quoted after an inspection, and the technician will confirm what you have, find the way in and place bait safely, away from children and pets. If you hear scratching overhead, read our guide on what to do if you hear rats in the roof.

Sources and further reading

  1. Queensland Health, leptospirosis and rodent-borne illness
  2. Healthdirect Australia
  3. Queensland Government

General information for South East Queensland conditions. Every property is different; a licensed inspection is the only way to know what is going on in yours.

Common questions

Questions people also ask

How do I know if droppings are from a mouse or a rat?

Check the size. Mouse droppings are 3 to 6 mm with pointed ends and there are lots of them. Rat droppings are about 10 to 20 mm and turn up in smaller clusters. Roof rat droppings are spindle-shaped with pointed ends, while Norway rat droppings are thicker with blunt ends. Location helps too, as roof rats use ceilings and beams.

How do I clean up rat droppings safely?

Wear disposable gloves, ventilate the area and don't sweep or vacuum. Spray the droppings with disinfectant until they're wet, wait for the time on the label, then wipe them up with paper towel and seal it in a bag for the outside bin. Wash the surface with hot soapy water, then wash your hands well.

Are rat droppings dangerous?

They can be. Rodents can carry bacteria that cause illness, and droppings, urine and saliva can contaminate food and surfaces. Leptospirosis is one disease spread through rat urine. Handle any droppings with gloves and disinfectant, and talk to your GP if you feel unwell afterwards. Queensland Health has a fact sheet with details.

Why shouldn't I vacuum or sweep droppings?

Sweeping and vacuuming can throw tiny particles from dried droppings and urine into the air, where you can breathe them in. A vacuum exhaust can spread them further. Wetting the droppings with disinfectant first keeps the dust down and kills germs, so you can wipe them up with paper towel instead.

Do mice and rats get into the same places?

Often, but not always. Mice slip through tiny gaps and tend to stay low, in pantries, drawers and wall cavities. Roof rats climb, so they use roof voids, wall tops, trees and power lines. Norway rats stay near the ground, around drains, sheds and bins. The droppings and location tell you which one you have.

Can I bait for rodents myself?

It's risky. Bait left where children, pets or wildlife can reach it is a hazard, and a rodent that dies inside a wall or ceiling causes odour and flies. It also doesn't stop new animals getting in. A technician finds the entry points and places secured bait safely. Bruin quotes rodent work after an inspection.

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